Talkin' About All Things Political



Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby JimCheek » January 26th, 2010, 11:17 am

Jeff_from_Kentucky wrote:Does anyone remember that around 2004 a bunch of prominant liberals got together to start their own liberal talk radio network called Air America? I remember they claimed at the time that it would be a huge success because up to that time there was no liberal talk radio shows and that the American public was clammoring for it.

Well, I just saw on the news that Air America went out of business today and shut down for good.

All TWENTY listeners are going through withdrawal! :roflol: :roflol:
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby JimCheek » January 26th, 2010, 11:22 am

Speaking of runaway spending.....

This is really scary!
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Jeff_from_Kentucky » January 26th, 2010, 7:04 pm

JimCheek wrote:
Jeff_from_Kentucky wrote:Does anyone remember that around 2004 a bunch of prominant liberals got together to start their own liberal talk radio network called Air America? I remember they claimed at the time that it would be a huge success because up to that time there was no liberal talk radio shows and that the American public was clammoring for it.

Well, I just saw on the news that Air America went out of business today and shut down for good.

All TWENTY listeners are going through withdrawal! :roflol: :roflol:


I didn't think they had that many! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Donna Lou » January 30th, 2010, 11:06 am

My personal opinion is that Nancy Pelosi will do anything to get what she wants. I've already written off Reid as being able to keep ANY promise he makes!
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Odeliya » February 4th, 2010, 9:21 pm

Amen, sisters. Sad.. :cry: needed reforms wont be done, destructive ones will be passed, i am afraid...
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby dagogga » February 7th, 2010, 3:36 am

Hi there,

I have a question and hope someone can answer it: What is the US government doing to help the ten Americans who were arrested in Haiti for wanting to take Haitian children across the border?
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Kerrlaw » February 7th, 2010, 5:22 pm

My understanding is that the U.S government feels that this is currently a matter for the Haitian justice system to resolve. Governments usually don't get involved in foreign criminal matters.

I have heard conflicting reports. One said the defendants were charged with kidnapping and child trafficking and the other said lesser charges of child abduction and criminal association.

Preliminary reports suggest that nine of the defendants were simply ignorant of the Haitian laws and following a leader who knowingly was violating the law. This leader, Laura Silsby, reportedly left behind (in Idaho) an array of legal problems, both financial and criminal.

I pray that any innocent defendants be released quickly.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby dagogga » February 8th, 2010, 2:46 am

Thanks, Kerrlaw. I sincerely hope that there was no wilful criminal activity in this business, because, apart from anything else, it brings Christianity in disrepute. The people concerned claim, according to the news we get here, to be Baptists from Ohio - that is, Christians.

Our news about them has been as follows: When they reached the border, they were found to be short of one document. The leader thought they'd be allowed to go back for it, but instead they were arrested. They have been assigned a lawyer who can't speak a word of English and who understands only a little English. Irrespective of whether they're guilty or innocent albeit perhaps misguided and/or ignorant, I feel very sorry for them because prison in Haiti is no picnic. They talk about God and wanting to help orphaned children, but taking children out of a country without going through the official channels is wrong. Could they really be so incredibly ignorant?

I thought perhaps the US government would at least send someone from the Embassy to check that they are all right and to perhaps arrange for a lawyer who can speak English. It would be unfair for them to be represented in court by a person who cannot speak the language.

Apparently the Haitian President intends to make an example of these people. Is that your understanding as well? Has this affair been big news in the US?

We are praying for these people.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Kerrlaw » February 8th, 2010, 8:42 pm

It has been pretty big news in the U.S.

I haven't heard anything about the lawyer not speaking English. If not, he had some good translators, as he was quoted several times. The latest is that he had been fired by the Dominican lawyer who hired him, because he was going to bribe the Haitian officials to let them go (which is apparently the common way to do business in the legal system there).

It is so different than ours. It is guilty until proven innocent. The "judges" are really no more than investigators who are barely paid a living wage.They are expected to go to the scene of the crime and talk to witnesses, but many can't afford a car. The "judges" are easily bribed in both criminal and civil cases.

Reports say that there are many Haitians, perhaps the President included, who resent the arrogance (in their mind) of Americans grabbing up their children and attempting to take them out of the country despite being warned by the consulate that it would be kidnapping if they did not have the appropriate documentation.

Imagine how Americans would feel if a group of Mexican missionaries had gone onto New Orleans after Katrina and gathered up 33 children and attempted to take them to Mexico after being warned that it could be a crime.

On the bright side, the U.S. consulate is apparently talking with the missionaries and there have been some discussions between our government and the Haitian government. Former President Bill Clinton, who is in charge of coordinating relief efforts, has encouraged the respective governments to resolve the issue.


Some Haitians and others are concerned, even angry, that this matter has drawn attention away from the desperate need of the survivors for food, water, and shelter, and hope for a quick resolution.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Kerrlaw » February 8th, 2010, 8:47 pm

BTW, my personal opinion is that at least eight of the detained missionaries are totally innocent of any deliberate wrongdoing.

I don't really know that I trust the leader of the group and I'm unsure about her nanny/partner.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby dagogga » February 11th, 2010, 7:51 am

Thanks, Kerrlaw. Yes, we also think that at least most of the Americans are innocent. Just very naive, perhaps. However, we're praying for all of them and hope that the matter will be resolved in their favor. It is good to remember that God is in control.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby JimCheek » February 11th, 2010, 3:58 pm

THIS is very encouraging. Now we just need the prosecutor to drop all the charges.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby JimCheek » March 18th, 2010, 12:21 am

The BEST description of the Speaker of the House goes to Michael Savage.
He calls her "NANCY LUGOSI" :laughter: :lol: :laughter: :laughter:
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Melissa » March 19th, 2010, 10:10 pm

JimCheek wrote:The BEST description of the Speaker of the House goes to Michael Savage.
He calls her "NANCY LUGOSI" :laughter: :lol: :laughter: :laughter:


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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Donna Lou » March 21st, 2010, 5:09 pm

How STUPID can STUPAK be to think that an "executive order" will override legislation? This is a farce. Something else transpired to get him to change his vote. I am just SICK over what is happening in our Congress today! God help us!
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Ruth Voorhees » March 21st, 2010, 5:25 pm

GVfriend wrote:How STUPID can STUPAK be to think that an "executive order" will override legislation? This is a farce. Something else transpired to get him to change his vote. I am just SICK over what is happening in our Congress today! God help us!



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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Dinana » March 21st, 2010, 5:33 pm

GVfriend wrote:How STUPID can STUPAK be to think that an "executive order" will override legislation? This is a farce. Something else transpired to get him to change his vote. I am just SICK over what is happening in our Congress today! God help us!


It's just so they can tell their constituents that they upheld their word to hold the line to not cover abortions with the federal insurance mandates, whether or not the "executive order" works or not. I think the democrats are going to face quite a backlash in the next elections. I'm just sick.

Ruth, the overtime costs are nothing compared to what this bill is going to cost us and all it's going to do is wreck our health care system. It isn't going to solve any problems at all.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Lynn Pollard » March 21st, 2010, 5:44 pm

Dinana wrote:
GVfriend wrote:How STUPID can STUPAK be to think that an "executive order" will override legislation? This is a farce. Something else transpired to get him to change his vote. I am just SICK over what is happening in our Congress today! God help us!


It's just so they can tell their constituents that they upheld their word to hold the line to not cover abortions with the federal insurance mandates, whether or not the "executive order" works or not. I think the democrats are going to face quite a backlash in the next elections. I'm just sick.

Ruth, the overtime costs are nothing compared to what this bill is going to cost us and all it's going to do is wreck our health care system. It isn't going to solve any problems at all.

Amen Diana! I'm so sick over this! The only voice I have left apparently is the ballot box...at least right now. I plan on using my vote wisely...vote everyone out that voted for it. I strongly believe we need term limits.
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Re: Talkin' About All Things Political

Postby Melissa » March 21st, 2010, 8:51 pm

GVfriend wrote:How STUPID can STUPAK be to think that an "executive order" will override legislation? This is a farce. Something else transpired to get him to change his vote. I am just SICK over what is happening in our Congress today! God help us!


I heard on Fox News that the executive order won't hold up in court, if the bill allows federal funding of abortion.

It's just so they can tell their constituents that they upheld their word to hold the line to not cover abortions with the federal insurance mandates, whether or not the "executive order" works or not. I think the democrats are going to face quite a backlash in the next elections. I'm just sick.


I'm sick of it too! He's covering something all right, like say his rear end. :o

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